We heard back from Mike's sister. She says no to our plan of her taking the house and the car and us taking the WAY SMALLER SHARE of just stocks and cash. She says she's "uncomfortable" with this because she wants the stocks for her financial security (oh, I see, she WANTS them!), and because she thinks the house will increase only slightly in value whereas the stocks will increase a lot. She says that's why "the plan is joint ownership," and that the great thing is that we (meaning her and us) can get a really good deal on a home equity loan right now!
You see what she's proposing? That WE take on half a SECOND MORTGAGE, to pay for repairs on the house she doesn't want to inherit but wants to live in "until the market improves." Meanwhile, she will take the car and she doesn't want to lose any of the stocks.
I'm happy to report that Mike says "Screw that." I think the mortgage idea is what really got through to him: not just "helping with repairs" but actually having ANOTHER MORTGAGE in addition to our own---with us getting nothing out of it. So he's emailing her back to say, "Okay, then let's sell the house as-is, as a fixer-upper, because there's no way we'll be able to get out the money we'd have to put in to fix it up. Then we'll split what it sells for, and the cash/stocks." (I'll make sure that it works out to include "...after taking the value of the car out of your half.")
I wish she'd just taken the house (because now we enter the world of real estate, and of getting her OUT), but I'm very, very, very happy that now Mike seems to have been steered off of his plan to let her live there indefinitely while we pay for repairs. I asked him if he thinks she's wily (trying to screw us) or just dim (so self-focused she doesn't even consider that we might not want to do what's best for her, even to our own detriment), and he waffled but basically went with "dim." Neither of us think she has ANY IDEA that if we sell the house, she'll end up having to pay rent elsewhere---and that the long-term cost of those rent payments will be FAR MORE than any problem with the house not increasing in value much, or with any financial security she thinks she'll get from the piddling stocks.
Phew. That IS sort-of better. I hope she vacates the house willingly and the house sells quickly, for your sake!
ReplyDeleteOh my. This is so challenging and yucky. But. BUT. Mike being on board is SO BIG it outweighs any of her cluelessness/self-centeredness. The fact that he's finally focused on protecting your family's financial interest is GREAT. Thank goodness!
ReplyDeleteWell at least there has been some sort of recognition that the sister is batshit crazy! I will wish you a very hasty sale, sorry it will be such a pain.
ReplyDeleteShe sounds entitled to me. Where was she living before your MIL died?
ReplyDeleteThank freaking goodness that Mike gets it, but ugh, now this is going to be even longer and more drawn out. At least you and Mike are on the same team now though. Really, that is worth a lot.
ReplyDeleteThank gawd he said "Screw that!" to the second mortgage. Can you even imagine?!
ReplyDeleteShoeaddict- WITH the MIL! Can you imagine the two of them...TOGETHER?? Combining their forces?? *shudder*
ReplyDelete"The plan is joint ownership" hahahaha! Well-played, sister. I guess dim is better than wily.
ReplyDeleteGlad to hear Mike's coming around. Screw that, indeed!
ReplyDeleteAlso-- Oh! Hi! It's you! I like your place. Very pink.
I think this is better FOR SURE. I mean, we KNOW she is irrational and entitled. That's not going to change, so the most important thing is that Mike understand the situation objectively, and not be willing to compromise your family's financial health for this.
ReplyDeleteStill, what a pain in the ass. Ugh.
Whoo! for Mike!
ReplyDeleteHere's to growing a pair... :)
I love how she put that in a "you have to contradict me" sort of spin with the "the plan is...". Like, that's The Plan that has been decided (or...rather...what *she* wants to do) and now if you say "Um, No Thanks" you are the ones going back on The Plan. Passive aggressive bullshit like that drives me CRAZY.
ReplyDeleteGlad Mike is at least paying lip service to seeing through that bullshit.
Hoo boy - at this point, I am just glad that she never came to visit WITH your MIL, I think the house would have exploded.
ReplyDeleteOne thing that really makes me crazy (among many things) is when people are purposefully and willfully ignorant. She is going to be shocked that Mike says to get rid of the house, right, and pay rent somewhere else? But she knows just enough about the stock market to know she wants in! Grrr.
I'm so glad Mike is on board with a reasonable plan, however I have to deep breathe through these posts so great is my disdain for SIL.
ReplyDeleteWell....Progress!..? Yes. Progress.
ReplyDeleteBased on your Twitter stream this morning, I hope an update is in the works! Glad to hear Paul's sister folded!
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